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	<title>Comments on: Wang Guangmei (Madame Liu Shaoqi), 1921-2006</title>
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		<title>By: 花崗齋之愚公</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2006/10/16/wang-guangmei-madame-liu-shaoqi-1921-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>花崗齋之愚公</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeremy, I&#039;ll be sure to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeremy, I&#8217;ll be sure to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: 舒 杰 瑞</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2006/10/16/wang-guangmei-madame-liu-shaoqi-1921-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>舒 杰 瑞</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a big article on Wang Guangmei in this week&#039;s Yazhou Zhoukan..I&#039;ll see if I can post it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a big article on Wang Guangmei in this week&#8217;s Yazhou Zhoukan..I&#8217;ll see if I can post it</p>
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		<title>By: 花崗齋之愚公</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2006/10/16/wang-guangmei-madame-liu-shaoqi-1921-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>花崗齋之愚公</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An update on your question. One source for the stories is Wang and Liu&#039;s daughter, Liu Ting.  There&#039;s a documentary called &quot;Morning Sun&quot; where she talks about the persecution of her parents during the GPCR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>An update on your question. One source for the stories is Wang and Liu&#8217;s daughter, Liu Ting.  There&#8217;s a documentary called &#8220;Morning Sun&#8221; where she talks about the persecution of her parents during the GPCR.</p>
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		<title>By: 花崗齋之愚公</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2006/10/16/wang-guangmei-madame-liu-shaoqi-1921-2006/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>花崗齋之愚公</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for checking in, it&#039;s great to have your comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You raise a very good question. I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s included in the documentary &quot;China: A Century of Revolution&quot; which we show our undergraduate students in the Chinese history survey. I&#039;m not in my office right now, but tomorrow I&#039;ll check the textbooks and the Spence Modern China book to see what they say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sure there are many different accounts, but I think the basic facts of his arrest and mistreatment are pretty well established.  As for his death, the film I mentioned (again, pretty sure it&#039;s Century of Revolution but I should check) actually shows a picture of the building.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d be interested in hearing more about the accounts you found in your research. Your paper sounds fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Thanks for checking in, it&#8217;s great to have your comments.</p>
<p>You raise a very good question. I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s included in the documentary &#8220;China: A Century of Revolution&#8221; which we show our undergraduate students in the Chinese history survey. I&#8217;m not in my office right now, but tomorrow I&#8217;ll check the textbooks and the Spence Modern China book to see what they say.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are many different accounts, but I think the basic facts of his arrest and mistreatment are pretty well established.  As for his death, the film I mentioned (again, pretty sure it&#8217;s Century of Revolution but I should check) actually shows a picture of the building.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing more about the accounts you found in your research. Your paper sounds fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any source for the details of Liu&#039;s torture and death after his arrest?  I remember writing a paper on him as an undergrad and finding that there were many conflicting accounts as to what really happened to him.  &lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the thoughtful post tho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any source for the details of Liu&#8217;s torture and death after his arrest?  I remember writing a paper on him as an undergrad and finding that there were many conflicting accounts as to what really happened to him.  <br />Thanks for the thoughtful post tho.</p>
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		<title>By: 花崗齋之愚公</title>
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		<dc:creator>花崗齋之愚公</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Raj,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for coming by, your comments are always appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I be interested in Dave&#039;s response to this given our recent discussions on the Wang Hui post regarding the necessity of the CCP to maintain stability in today&#039;s China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Raj,</p>
<p>Thanks for coming by, your comments are always appreciated.</p>
<p>I be interested in Dave&#8217;s response to this given our recent discussions on the Wang Hui post regarding the necessity of the CCP to maintain stability in today&#8217;s China.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same question can be asked of what would have happened if Zhao Ziyang had remained in power after 1989.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s nice to dream, but sadly the world can be especially cruel, especially when good people stand back and allow bullies to take over. Though examples like these should serve to stop us being complacent and to resist tyranny, rather than roll over and accept it because of our fears of &quot;dis-order&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same question can be asked of what would have happened if Zhao Ziyang had remained in power after 1989.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to dream, but sadly the world can be especially cruel, especially when good people stand back and allow bullies to take over. Though examples like these should serve to stop us being complacent and to resist tyranny, rather than roll over and accept it because of our fears of &#8220;dis-order&#8221;.</p>
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