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The stupidity of things past (The tense relationship between the past imperfect and the present progressive)

September 14th, 2007 · 12 Comments

Interesting post on the academic blog, New Kid on the Hallway (”The Glory of Progress“) about the tendency by students and even some scholars to assume that because people from the past didn’t write what we would write or think the way we would think, that somehow this means they were…well, not as smart as we who live in the present day. (I’m excerpting larger than usual sections because the website is blocked in China.)

Something I run into relatively regularly is the idea that people in the past were stupider than modern people. (Granted, it’s not usually stated as bluntly as it was today, when a student explained something we were talking about by saying literally that medieval people were stupider than modern people, but the idea frequently underlies other comments.) I’m curious about how students define “the past” and “modern” in thinking about this - I suspect that they actually draw (entirely unconsciously) on an old school, secular humanist Enlightenment vision of history that disses the Middle Ages, and that they don’t actually believe that the ancient Greeks and Romans were less intelligent than people today - but I’m sure that this idea pops up in many fields of history. Apart from the Enlightenment vision, I think much of it derives from an idea of progress - that past history is a linear progression to the present and that progress entails improvement: hence, people today must be smarter than those in the past.

This is one of those fallacies that I, and many instructors I know, have railed against many times. But I feel a little unfair in doing so, because I can actually pinpoint the moment when, viscerally, I came to understand what I now tell my students. I’m sure that before that time I didn’t blurt out in class that people in the past were stupider than those today. But somewhere I absorbed the idea that because medieval sources didn’t try to tell us modern people what we wanted to know, they were deficient. They didn’t write “real” history.

Well, duh - of course they didn’t write “real” history. They didn’t know what it was. Not because they were stupid, but because the concept didn’t exist. They didn’t write for the same reasons we do; they had their own reasons. History meant something else entirely.

I think that this is even more common when the subject is China.

The New Kid suggests the break between the perceptions of the past in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, with their fond gaze back to classical Rome and Greece, and the Enlightenment era ideas of progress and perfectability. The New Culture/May Fourth generation in China precipitated a similar schism–between the classicist/historicist leanings of the older scholar elite and the progressivist modernization/civilization discourse of the New Culture kids.

With this notion of historical progress so ingrained in our psyches, comes a dangerous slippery slope upon which we trod at our own peril.

In some ways it reminds me of a line from the Daodejing 道德经:

When everyone in the world knows beauty as beauty, ugliness appears.
When everyone knows good as good, not good arrives.
Therefore being and non-being give birth to one another;

In historiographical terms, until there was a need to describe that which was “modern,” there was no need to describe something as “traditional.” Along with this division came an implicit value judgement, based in large part on western ideas of linear history and notions of material progress that traditional was bad and modern was good. This division gave birth to other–a perhaps even more awkward divide–between “civilized” and “backwards.”

If today’s students in a class on medieval Europe occasionally feel as if their forbears from the Middle Ages were just “modern Europeans in training,” it is even more insidious when Americans view China’s past (and frankly, the present) in the same unfortunate way.

Say it with me: people in the past were not somehow slower on the uptake, it’s because we–in the present–get A LOT of help from the smart people who came before. And here I reveal my own slightly progressivist take on history. To borrow from P.J. O’Rourke, for those who feel that there was some magical time in the past when all was better, I give you one word: “dentistry.”

I do feel that we make progress as humans–that every generation has the opportunity and even the responsibility to learn from generations past–but while I believe in progress, I don’t think we progress as quickly as people would like to hope. I think that there are false starts, winding steps sideways and slippery steps backwards, hornets nests and poison ivy, and occasional holes along the trail in which we can twist our collective ankles or sometimes worse. (And yes, I’ve been doing some hiking lately. Why do you ask?) But where we get into trouble is when we load up notions of progress with inherent (often inherently “good”) moral values and then pass judgement on those in the past who, we feel, don’t measure up to to our contemporary standards.

That’s not to say there weren’t any stupid or evil people in history. There were. Lots. But we can’t assume that there were MORE stupid or evil people (or that people were more stupid) than today, in fact the law of big numbers suggests that can’t be true. To quote George Carlin, “Think about how stupid the average person is, and remember–by the law of averages–half the people you meet each day will be stupider than that.”

Seriously though, when dealing with China, the past is ever present and thus–I fear–those attitudes applied to generations of westerners past get placed at the feet of the Chinese today.

And so let’s play our game. China lacks equivalency with the west because it lacks FILL in the BLANK_________: (human rights/a civil society/subway manners/hygiene/open government/environmental protections).

We’ve seen it written a thousand times, I’ve probably done it myself. As with the New Kid’s students, few of us would admit this assumption of inferiority so boldly–but we all know of conversations, articles, or comments that are harder to swallow because of a slightly acidic aftertaste of western/progressive/presentist superiority.

That China is lacking in all of the above categories is hard to deny, but what shouldn’t be assumed is that it’s because the Chinese (past or present) didn’t/don’t somehow “Get it yet.” That on the timeline of human progress, China is still stuck at an earlier point in the developmental chart and is thus implicitly inferior to the modern, developed west. It’s a seductive trap and–quite frankly–a sentiment that is used as both a curse and a crutch. Witness the Chinese government brushing aside many of its social, political, industrial, and environmental problems as ’stages of development’ with the not so-subtle subtext of “we’re just not there yet, give us time.”

But perhaps even more dangerous is that many Chinese–especially the educated, urban elite zipping around Beijing in their new QQs and sipping on a frappuccino that they hate but who wouldn’t be caught dead drinking tea out of an old glass jar–is the internalization of this past/present progressive split and its regurgitation as a civilized/backwards view:

Urban=money=progressive=modern=”good quality” 素质=what we want to show the world. Poor=rural=backwards=superstitious=the men who build our apartments and the women who clean them=bad habits/”bad quality”=who both BOCOG and the urban elite wants to shove into some Hebei lake sometime before mid-July, 2008. Solve for x.

But enough about this…It’s a beautiful day in Beijing and the only modernity I frankly want to worry about this morning is “Scandinavian Modern.” See you at Ikea.

Tags: Chinese History

12 responses so far ↓

  • 1 無名 - wu ming // Sep 14, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    when i think about how astoundingly erudite the guys that i study had to have been just to pass the civil service exams, much less compose their writing in such a manner that has me with my nose in a dictionary for days on end, it’s rather humbling.

    i think you’re totally onto something, though.

  • 2 Sam // Sep 15, 2007 at 9:47 am

    Glad to see you back blogging.
    I add to your ideas over at The Useless Tree here:
    http://uselesstree.typepad.com/useless_tree/2007/09/i-think-they-we.html
    Oh, and… How ’bout those Yankees!

  • 3 Denis Wong // Sep 15, 2007 at 11:57 am

    Fei Xiao Tong (”From The Soil” University of California Press, 1992) identified this problem back in 1947. The revolution was coming and it was clear that the contradictions lay between the towns and the countryside. As an anthropologist and sociologist, he made the analysis of that contradiction, pointing out that traditional life wasn’t stupid, but had its own, in many ways sophisticated, logic. The communists decided that class conflict, not reform was the way forward so he was ignored but recent work at Nanjing University indicates a comeback.

  • 4 Michael Turton // Sep 16, 2007 at 6:36 am

    I’ve often thought that this position you advocate was a case of PC run riot.

    The ancients had brains that were every bit as functional as ours, but they lacked centuries of advances in logic, statistics, and epistemology. Especially statistical thinking, for which the ancient world had neither analogue nor substitute. Moderns also have the advantage of a far vaster knowledge base, developed not only out methodologies that the ancients never imagined — but with technologies they had no access to.

    Moderns think in totally different ways than premoderns, ways that require training, and ways that take advantage of our vastly superior knowledge of the world.

    Michael

  • 5 花崗齋之愚公 // Sep 16, 2007 at 6:43 am

    Michael,

    Not sure which position you think I’m advocating. I state quite clearly,

    “Say it with me: people in the past were not somehow slower on the uptake, it’s because we–in the present–get A LOT of help from the smart people who came before. And here I reveal my own slightly progressivist take on history.”

    Which seems quite close to your own comment. I thought I was clear that I agree in progress, but that I simply caution against blanket value judgements solely on the grounds of new=good/superior old=bad/inferior.

    Thanks for stopping by.

  • 6 花崗齋之愚公 // Sep 16, 2007 at 6:45 am

    Denis,

    I think another example was the decision in the early years of the PRC to freeze rural to urban migration and institute the hukou system.

    Thanks for stopping by.

  • 7 花崗齋之愚公 // Sep 16, 2007 at 6:47 am

    Sam,

    I read your post with great interest. Thanks for your (as usual) insigtful commentary and taking these ideas to a new place.

    Ps. 10-1, Beckett over Wang, big game tonight.

  • 8 x@y // Sep 16, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    Very happy to see your back writing the blog!

  • 9 Anonymous // Sep 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    First off, nice to see you back.

    I do have a challenge for you.
    I just read this article about Chinese attitude towards democracy http://www.cbiz.cn/news/showarticle.asp?id=2487

    Although I disagree with some of the points made in this article, it does lead to a question.

    If most Chinese do not cherish these almost universally agreed values in the western society, how is it possible for most westerners consider Chinese as “equals”, not as “not get it” or worse yet inferior.

  • 10 花崗齋之愚公 // Sep 17, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    Anonymous,

    Thanks for the link to the Doctoroff article.

    In a simple answer to a complicated question, I believe that many people in China who feel that the problems of corruption and greater protection of personal property/financial interests can be achieved only through continuing the present system are wrong, but I don’t think that makes them “inferior.” We just disagree on some fundamental points of the human condition or perhaps they have been misinformed in their education or by the media.

    This is a split in my own house. YJ and I disagree on this issue all the time, I respect her point of view and she respects mine. I know that her view is not because she is unfamiliar with US or European style democracy (she has worked in local government on both of those continents), but because she has some reservations about the immediate applicability of this system in China.

    Part of “American Exceptionalism” is the idea that if only the people of China/Iraq/Iran knew about American-style democracy then they would of course realize its inherent superiority and embrace it immediately. I happen to agree that democracy is the superior form of government, but I’m willing to believe that there are those who disagree with me, not necessarily because they are brainwashed or stupid, but because they just don’t see the world the same way I do.

    As I said in my post, that’s not to say there are not stupid or evil people and governments in both the present and the past. But the original point of the post was to note that many people make knee-jerk assumptions of intellectual competence when looking at questions of comparative development, political systems, etc.

    For me the only truly “stupid” people are those who refuse to keep open minds or who have willfully decided to stop learning. When presented with new ideas, they either tuck tail and run or they blindly lash out.

    Thanks for stopping by and next time, feel free to leave a name.

  • 11 無名 - wu ming // Sep 19, 2007 at 1:12 am

    to paraphrase gandhi, i think american democracy would be a great idea.

  • 12 花崗齋之愚公 // Sep 19, 2007 at 9:33 am

    Wu Ming,

    I just used the Gandhi quote in my class this past week but I always thought the question was about “Western civilization.”

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