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	<title>Comments on: Voices from China&#8217;s Past: Liang Qichao in Central Park</title>
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		<title>By: TH</title>
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		<dc:creator>TH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it was Shu Jierui who asked where one can find Liang Sicheng&#039;s original master plan for Beijing. It was not included in his so-called complete works Liang Sicheng quanji, but Wang Jun has it in his Cheng Ji. 

If you check session 13 of my course site at http://gatheringmountains.net/courses/CRP679.html it is included in that session&#039;s PDF file. 

Beijing, btw, is increasing it&#039;s park  (or should I say: green) space from 25% to a bit over 30% in the next 18 months.  It&#039;s a rather contested development, as for example a green space such as the new Tianyuan Park will require extravagant amounts of water, a rare (and still underpriced)  commodity in Beijing these days.  

On the other hand, traveling to Henan and other places these days, one can observe laobaixing in the afternoon emerging from their houses washing their clothes in the water which the water brigade had just discharged to water green spaces along roads.  TH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it was Shu Jierui who asked where one can find Liang Sicheng&#8217;s original master plan for Beijing. It was not included in his so-called complete works Liang Sicheng quanji, but Wang Jun has it in his Cheng Ji. </p>
<p>If you check session 13 of my course site at <a href="http://gatheringmountains.net/courses/CRP679.html" rel="nofollow">http://gatheringmountains.net/courses/CRP679.html</a> it is included in that session&#8217;s PDF file. </p>
<p>Beijing, btw, is increasing it&#8217;s park  (or should I say: green) space from 25% to a bit over 30% in the next 18 months.  It&#8217;s a rather contested development, as for example a green space such as the new Tianyuan Park will require extravagant amounts of water, a rare (and still underpriced)  commodity in Beijing these days.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, traveling to Henan and other places these days, one can observe laobaixing in the afternoon emerging from their houses washing their clothes in the water which the water brigade had just discharged to water green spaces along roads.  TH</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to read the both the original post as well as the comments. I couldn&#039;t agree more that a little bit of greenery and nature is vital for psychological well-being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to read the both the original post as well as the comments. I couldn&#8217;t agree more that a little bit of greenery and nature is vital for psychological well-being.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottLoar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottLoar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From the Chinese point of view this may be called throwing away money on useless land and regrettable.&quot;

I&#039;ve been told that during the Maoist era the planner for Zhaojiabang Road in Shanghai was severely criticised for wasting space on the width of the road as well as the luxuriant (well, by urban Chinese standards) meridian separating the lanes.  But, Liang Qichao&#039;s comment seems to apply universally to Chinese, no matter those who insist on building an adjacent rental unit to the house under the euphemism &quot;housing for the mother in-law&quot; despite residential restrictions, or subdividing apartment space, or erecting commercial outlets in the front yard and rental units in the back,  or in general tirelessly pursuing wealth through the tradition of property investment (densities and real estate values often more than 30% greater than the surrounding areas in foreign countries)  and blithely exercising the Chinese horror vacui;  no matter mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Southeast Asia,  Australia or North America this seems to hold true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From the Chinese point of view this may be called throwing away money on useless land and regrettable.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been told that during the Maoist era the planner for Zhaojiabang Road in Shanghai was severely criticised for wasting space on the width of the road as well as the luxuriant (well, by urban Chinese standards) meridian separating the lanes.  But, Liang Qichao&#8217;s comment seems to apply universally to Chinese, no matter those who insist on building an adjacent rental unit to the house under the euphemism &#8220;housing for the mother in-law&#8221; despite residential restrictions, or subdividing apartment space, or erecting commercial outlets in the front yard and rental units in the back,  or in general tirelessly pursuing wealth through the tradition of property investment (densities and real estate values often more than 30% greater than the surrounding areas in foreign countries)  and blithely exercising the Chinese horror vacui;  no matter mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Southeast Asia,  Australia or North America this seems to hold true.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wu Ming,

Isn&#039;t it a great document? It&#039;s perfect for class because there is just so much juice for discussion in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wu Ming,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it a great document? It&#8217;s perfect for class because there is just so much juice for discussion in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

Plus competing choirs, accordion bands, and few different dance troupes...it&#039;s a regular vaudeville revue starting every night around 8.  

Thanks for stopping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Plus competing choirs, accordion bands, and few different dance troupes&#8230;it&#8217;s a regular vaudeville revue starting every night around 8.  </p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.</p>
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