Comments on: The Historical Record for July 19, 2008: Xu Beihong and the fall of the Taiping Capital http://granitestudio.org/2008/07/19/the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital A Qing historian reads the newspaper... Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:31:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: peony http://granitestudio.org/2008/07/19/the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-3243 peony Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:28:29 +0000 http://granitestudio.org/?p=525#comment-3243 Well, I guess that is better than my mom. Whenever we visit museums in Tokyo or Taipei and HK, she judges art with, "No, that wouldn't look good in the living room;" or, "I wouldn't hang that on my walls..." The book actually is interesting in a historical context-- as part of the overall interaction between the 2 civilizations. I don't know exactly what your thesis is on, but I have found art a really interesting place to see how cultures interact. Well, I guess that is better than my mom. Whenever we visit museums in Tokyo or Taipei and HK, she judges art with, “No, that wouldn’t look good in the living room;” or, “I wouldn’t hang that on my walls…”

The book actually is interesting in a historical context– as part of the overall interaction between the 2 civilizations. I don’t know exactly what your thesis is on, but I have found art a really interesting place to see how cultures interact.

]]> By: Jeremiah http://granitestudio.org/2008/07/19/the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-3215 Jeremiah Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:00:36 +0000 http://granitestudio.org/?p=525#comment-3215 Peony, I confess to being an art and art history novice. I'm very much in the "I know what I like..." camp. But I've been looking to expand my horizons for some time now, thanks for the reading recommendations, I'll be sure to check them out. Peony,

I confess to being an art and art history novice. I’m very much in the “I know what I like…” camp. But I’ve been looking to expand my horizons for some time now, thanks for the reading recommendations, I’ll be sure to check them out.

]]> By: peony http://granitestudio.org/2008/07/19/the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-3176 peony Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:08:06 +0000 http://granitestudio.org/?p=525#comment-3176 PS: The more I think about it, the stranger it seems to me that he wasn't included in Sullivan's book. As Kiki said, Xu was instrumental in the debates surrounding what Chinese painting was to be (how much western and or japanese elements should be taken up into traditional painting practices)-- even the horse painting you chose up top is representative of this blending of very old (tang painting) conventions and themes with Western techniques. Over and out. PS: The more I think about it, the stranger it seems to me that he wasn’t included in Sullivan’s book. As Kiki said, Xu was instrumental in the debates surrounding what Chinese painting was to be (how much western and or japanese elements should be taken up into traditional painting practices)– even the horse painting you chose up top is representative of this blending of very old (tang painting) conventions and themes with Western techniques.
Over and out.

]]> By: peony http://granitestudio.org/2008/07/19/the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-3172 peony Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:42:11 +0000 http://granitestudio.org/?p=525#comment-3172 It's been so quiet here at the Studio this week-- hope you are hanging in there. I-- too-- like Xu Beihong-- I love his horse paitings and think he may be unique for his modern commitment to what is a very old genre? (<a href="http://www.tangdynastytimes.com/2008/05/nhk-silkroad-pa.html" rel="nofollow">NHK Silkroad (part 1)　天馬行空</a>) The artist was not included in this book (a textbook actually) but its a book I like very much called _The Meeting of Eastern and Western Art_ by respected and prolific Michael Sullivan. I think you would especially be interested in Chapter Three (China and European Art) It is all basic stuff but the conclusion was well done I thought. http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/4735.php It’s been so quiet here at the Studio this week– hope you are hanging in there.

I– too– like Xu Beihong– I love his horse paitings and think he may be unique for his modern commitment to what is a very old genre?
(NHK Silkroad (part 1)　天馬行空)

The artist was not included in this book (a textbook actually) but its a book I like very much called _The Meeting of Eastern and Western Art_ by respected and prolific Michael Sullivan. I think you would especially be interested in Chapter Three (China and European Art) It is all basic stuff but the conclusion was well done I thought.

http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/4735.php

]]> By: Jeremiah http://granitestudio.org/2008/07/19/the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-3109 Jeremiah Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:55:06 +0000 http://granitestudio.org/?p=525#comment-3109 Kiki, Thanks, always great to have you comment. You know, after I finished the post I realized I didn't say a whole lot about Xu as an artist and that's my bad. Part of it is that I have a limited background in art history and so would be in a bit over my shoulders in such a discussion, I'm glad you filled the gap. Thanks for stopping by. Kiki,

Thanks, always great to have you comment. You know, after I finished the post I realized I didn’t say a whole lot about Xu as an artist and that’s my bad. Part of it is that I have a limited background in art history and so would be in a bit over my shoulders in such a discussion, I’m glad you filled the gap.

Thanks for stopping by.

]]> By: Kiki http://granitestudio.org/2008/07/19/the-historical-record-for-july-19-2008-xu-beihong-and-the-fall-of-the-taiping-capital/comment-page-1/#comment-3105 Kiki Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:19:01 +0000 http://granitestudio.org/?p=525#comment-3105 Love the Historical Record posts! I'm so pleased to see a little bit of art history make it onto the record. But I would also add in just how big a role he played in the debates surrounding guohua, and what the new "Chinese painting" should be. Chinese art history of the twentieth century swirls around the fluctuating definition of national painting, an issue that parallels, reflects and impacts the political and social changes of the time. Love the Historical Record posts! I’m so pleased to see a little bit of art history make it onto the record. But I would also add in just how big a role he played in the debates surrounding guohua, and what the new “Chinese painting” should be. Chinese art history of the twentieth century swirls around the fluctuating definition of national painting, an issue that parallels, reflects and impacts the political and social changes of the time.

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