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	<title>Comments on: Back in Beijing in the middle of a blackout</title>
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		<title>By: fred dintenfass</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2009/06/03/back-in-beijing-in-the-middle-of-a-blackout/comment-page-1/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>fred dintenfass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Granite Studio: When history is swept under the rug, it can begin to rot and that stench is the smell of fear http://trunc.it/d0d9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Granite Studio: When history is swept under the rug, it can begin to rot and that stench is the smell of fear <a href="http://trunc.it/d0d9" rel="nofollow">http://trunc.it/d0d9</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: fanni </title>
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		<dc:creator>fanni </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&quot;Take a test, memorize your lessons, graduate, shut up, quit thinking, and buy a damn car&quot; http://is.gd/OT0N&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">&#8220;Take a test, memorize your lessons, graduate, shut up, quit thinking, and buy a damn car&#8221; <a href="http://is.gd/OT0N" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/OT0N</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: jch</title>
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		<dc:creator>jch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah,

Yeah I was hopeful (and in shock) for about the first online page and then it went downhill.  Still, they must be giving GT more leeway as a part of their international propaganda, uh I mean publicity, campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah,</p>
<p>Yeah I was hopeful (and in shock) for about the first online page and then it went downhill.  Still, they must be giving GT more leeway as a part of their international propaganda, uh I mean publicity, campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCH,

Yeah saw that this morning and if my twitter box (top left) was still visible in the PRC, you&#039;d see a link to the article.

It does have a couple of ballsy bits before it goes right into the government&#039;s preferred narrative.

It&#039;s also getting some attention here in Beijing, several foreign media outlets are running stories on the story for tomorrow&#039;s edition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCH,</p>
<p>Yeah saw that this morning and if my twitter box (top left) was still visible in the PRC, you&#8217;d see a link to the article.</p>
<p>It does have a couple of ballsy bits before it goes right into the government&#8217;s preferred narrative.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also getting some attention here in Beijing, several foreign media outlets are running stories on the story for tomorrow&#8217;s edition.</p>
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		<title>By: jch</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2009/06/03/back-in-beijing-in-the-middle-of-a-blackout/comment-page-1/#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>jch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, while the piece is sympathetic to the government point of view, Global Times did mention 6/4 today: http://www.globaltimes.cn/www/english/top-news/2009-06/434370.html

The fact that they are allowed to mention it all is pretty surprising...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, while the piece is sympathetic to the government point of view, Global Times did mention 6/4 today: <a href="http://www.globaltimes.cn/www/english/top-news/2009-06/434370.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.globaltimes.cn/www/english/top-news/2009-06/434370.html</a></p>
<p>The fact that they are allowed to mention it all is pretty surprising&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chriswaugh_bj</title>
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		<dc:creator>chriswaugh_bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, understood, and I agree completely. Just adding a couple of different perspectives, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, understood, and I agree completely. Just adding a couple of different perspectives, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kim Jong-il wannabes&quot; This is good. Love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kim Jong-il wannabes&#8221; This is good. Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Good point as always.  Though I think you may have misunderstood me, I&#039;m not saying that &#039;not caring&#039; about 6-4 makes one a fenqing, rather that there is a group out there, and you know who they are, who are on some kind of crusade to prove that 6-4 has no historical importance, including pointing to such weird &#039;evidence&#039; as nobody protesting in the square anymore.  That&#039;s what I meant above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Good point as always.  Though I think you may have misunderstood me, I&#8217;m not saying that &#8216;not caring&#8217; about 6-4 makes one a fenqing, rather that there is a group out there, and you know who they are, who are on some kind of crusade to prove that 6-4 has no historical importance, including pointing to such weird &#8216;evidence&#8217; as nobody protesting in the square anymore.  That&#8217;s what I meant above.</p>
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		<title>By: chriswaugh_bj</title>
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		<dc:creator>chriswaugh_bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking to my boss the other day (who, by the way, absolutely does not fit your fenqing profile), and I suggested that perhaps on Thursday we&#039;ll see a brief return to Olympic-level security. He said words to the effect of &quot;What? Oh, 6-4? Shit, people still care about that?&quot; On the other hand, I&#039;m a little worried about certain of my students, kids who were busy being born, crying for milk, and shitting through their split pants in &#039;89, who seem to have a bit much of that youthful passion for their own good. &#039;Twill be interesting to see who wears white to class tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking to my boss the other day (who, by the way, absolutely does not fit your fenqing profile), and I suggested that perhaps on Thursday we&#8217;ll see a brief return to Olympic-level security. He said words to the effect of &#8220;What? Oh, 6-4? Shit, people still care about that?&#8221; On the other hand, I&#8217;m a little worried about certain of my students, kids who were busy being born, crying for milk, and shitting through their split pants in &#8217;89, who seem to have a bit much of that youthful passion for their own good. &#8216;Twill be interesting to see who wears white to class tomorrow.</p>
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		<dc:creator>China&#8217;s Great Firewall Blocks Twitter, Flickr, Hotmail, Live, Bing &#124; CNReviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] masses that something was amiss, further spurring their curiosity to find out just what&#8217;s got the government&#8217;s giant knickers in a bunch. If nothing else, these blocks might annoy the foreigner population that regularly use these [...]</description>
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