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	<title>Comments on: Why I teach history, Part IX: The Middle Kingdom and Middle Earth?</title>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2009/06/19/teach-history-part-ix-the-middle-kingdom-and-middle-earth/comment-page-1/#comment-12475</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ll refrain from waging off-topic battles with you on other people’s space.&quot;

I&#039;m not a huge fan of the NBA but I think you just threw an elbow or two while the referee was blind-sided. Liberals would never engage in such foul play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ll refrain from waging off-topic battles with you on other people’s space.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a huge fan of the NBA but I think you just threw an elbow or two while the referee was blind-sided. Liberals would never engage in such foul play.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
		<link>http://granitestudio.org/2009/06/19/teach-history-part-ix-the-middle-kingdom-and-middle-earth/comment-page-1/#comment-12474</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, stuart, I generally avoid going on other people&#039;s blogs to instigate off-topic personal fights (which is why some of your past comments were deleted over on CNR). An off-handed quip here or there, maybe, but I didn&#039;t think me commandeering the comments here by quoting the many instances of you being self-righteous would be appropriate behavior as a guest on Jeremiah&#039;s blog. Now, we can elbow each other here and there, but I&#039;ll refrain from waging off-topic battles with you on other people&#039;s space. 

@ tdaxp:

I understand that &quot;China&quot; and &quot;China&#039;s government&quot; can be and is often used interchangeably without any malicious thought. Usually context is sufficient to discern what they mean (Cafferty anyone?). However, I can definitely agree with Jeremiah&#039;s preference for &quot;breaking down the monolith.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, stuart, I generally avoid going on other people&#8217;s blogs to instigate off-topic personal fights (which is why some of your past comments were deleted over on CNR). An off-handed quip here or there, maybe, but I didn&#8217;t think me commandeering the comments here by quoting the many instances of you being self-righteous would be appropriate behavior as a guest on Jeremiah&#8217;s blog. Now, we can elbow each other here and there, but I&#8217;ll refrain from waging off-topic battles with you on other people&#8217;s space. </p>
<p>@ tdaxp:</p>
<p>I understand that &#8220;China&#8221; and &#8220;China&#8217;s government&#8221; can be and is often used interchangeably without any malicious thought. Usually context is sufficient to discern what they mean (Cafferty anyone?). However, I can definitely agree with Jeremiah&#8217;s preference for &#8220;breaking down the monolith.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hang on, I’ve got Satan on line 2, wants me to send down some firewood and a decent space heater.&quot;

LOL. My comment, although sincere, was in part intended to get a rise out of my old pal Pffefer. And to my great surprise and delight it was Kai who stepped up...

&quot;...did stuart just self-righteously say that? Oh, I’m so tempted…but this isn’t the place. I shall refrain.&quot;

Oh but it IS the place, Kai; we&#039;re on neutral territory - you can&#039;t delete my comments here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hang on, I’ve got Satan on line 2, wants me to send down some firewood and a decent space heater.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL. My comment, although sincere, was in part intended to get a rise out of my old pal Pffefer. And to my great surprise and delight it was Kai who stepped up&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;did stuart just self-righteously say that? Oh, I’m so tempted…but this isn’t the place. I shall refrain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh but it IS the place, Kai; we&#8217;re on neutral territory &#8211; you can&#8217;t delete my comments here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This starting to get a bit remedial,

Spelling is important because transliteration of terms demonstrates an awareness with literature on the subject.  If somebody was writing about the US and spelled the president&#039;s home as Wite Hoose, you&#039;d worry.

Agreed: most civilizations think of themselves as &quot;central,&quot; which is exactly why essentializing China for doing so perhaps isn&#039;t the best argument.

The issue is not PRC versus China, but &quot;China&quot; versus &quot;Chinese government.&quot;  It may seem a small point, but it&#039;s not a mere grammatical &#039;snark,&#039; rather it&#039;s an issue of breaking down the monolith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This starting to get a bit remedial,</p>
<p>Spelling is important because transliteration of terms demonstrates an awareness with literature on the subject.  If somebody was writing about the US and spelled the president&#8217;s home as Wite Hoose, you&#8217;d worry.</p>
<p>Agreed: most civilizations think of themselves as &#8220;central,&#8221; which is exactly why essentializing China for doing so perhaps isn&#8217;t the best argument.</p>
<p>The issue is not PRC versus China, but &#8220;China&#8221; versus &#8220;Chinese government.&#8221;  It may seem a small point, but it&#8217;s not a mere grammatical &#8217;snark,&#8217; rather it&#8217;s an issue of breaking down the monolith.</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me as rational for almost any civilization, after receiving reports from explorers who have gone north, south, west, and east, to decide that it is central.

Hence we have the Middle Earth Sea and the Middle Yard [1].

Much of this post strikes me as needlessly snarky. Attacking spelling is a cheap way of attacking someone when you don&#039;t have something substantive to say. Attacking someone for referring to the PRC as &quot;China&quot; is just bizarre.


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midgard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me as rational for almost any civilization, after receiving reports from explorers who have gone north, south, west, and east, to decide that it is central.</p>
<p>Hence we have the Middle Earth Sea and the Middle Yard [1].</p>
<p>Much of this post strikes me as needlessly snarky. Attacking spelling is a cheap way of attacking someone when you don&#8217;t have something substantive to say. Attacking someone for referring to the PRC as &#8220;China&#8221; is just bizarre.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midgard" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midgard</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL, did stuart just self-righteously say that? Oh, I&#039;m so tempted...but this isn&#039;t the place. I shall refrain.

Overall, I think the whole &quot;liberal&quot; vs &quot;conservative&quot; self-identification thing is a bit unnecessary. Most people I know have values that peacefully coexist in both &quot;camps&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL, did stuart just self-righteously say that? Oh, I&#8217;m so tempted&#8230;but this isn&#8217;t the place. I shall refrain.</p>
<p>Overall, I think the whole &#8220;liberal&#8221; vs &#8220;conservative&#8221; self-identification thing is a bit unnecessary. Most people I know have values that peacefully coexist in both &#8220;camps&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pfeffer and Stuart on the same side of an argument?

Hang on, I&#039;ve got Satan on line 2, wants me to send down some firewood and a decent space heater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfeffer and Stuart on the same side of an argument?</p>
<p>Hang on, I&#8217;ve got Satan on line 2, wants me to send down some firewood and a decent space heater.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d think the liberals are much less likely to make this kind of nonsensical, self-righteous judgment. Wouldn’t you think?&quot;

As a liberal myself, I&#039;d have to agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d think the liberals are much less likely to make this kind of nonsensical, self-righteous judgment. Wouldn’t you think?&#8221;</p>
<p>As a liberal myself, I&#8217;d have to agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Please</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pffefer,

You&#039;re assigning liberals a predisposition &quot;against&quot; self-righteousness? That&#039;s easily the funniest thing I&#039;ve ever heard. Easily...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pffefer,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re assigning liberals a predisposition &#8220;against&#8221; self-righteousness? That&#8217;s easily the funniest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard. Easily&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pffefer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pffefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please,

In Jeremiah&#039;s defense (not that he needs it), sure the vast majority of Americans, both liberal and conservative don&#039;t know much about China, however I&#039;d think the liberals are much less likely to make this kind of nonsensical, self-righteous judgment. Wouldn&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please,</p>
<p>In Jeremiah&#8217;s defense (not that he needs it), sure the vast majority of Americans, both liberal and conservative don&#8217;t know much about China, however I&#8217;d think the liberals are much less likely to make this kind of nonsensical, self-righteous judgment. Wouldn&#8217;t you think?</p>
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